James Henry Warner (b 1841 Mitchelstown) - searching for family

Peta:

You have a great picture of James Henry Warner. If you get an opportunity, could you add his story to our Chronicles site?  https://irelandxo.com/ireland-xo/history-and-genealogy

You don't mention whether James was Church of Ireland or Roman Catholic. The subscription site Roots Ireland has records for both churches going back before 1826 yet when I searched, I did not find any children of John Warner and his wife Catherine. Possibly he was baptized in a church which no longer has records back to 1826 and then the family moved to Mitchelstown?

I did not find any info on the Rev. Bolster.

Roger McDonnell

Thanks Roger, I am waiting on moderation for the Chronicle entry.  James was a parishioner of St James Anglican Church in Toowoomba.  Definately not RC as James' son William (my GGrandfather) married an RC girl and it was 'quite a to do' amongst the siblings.  Interesting about the Rev Bolster in all my years of searching I couldn't uncover anything either but the reference  to which I refer is counter signed by a Dean in Melbourne, Victoria (where James would have disembarked)  claiming that he knew the Rev and that the reference was legit.  Thanks for your quick reply. 

Peta:

One of our volunteers, Shane Wilson, found a reference to Rev. Bolster and here is the info Shane provided.

" From at least 1863 to 1868 (close to the time that letter was written) Rev. John Abraham Bolster A.M was Church of Ireland incumbent of Killaspugmullane (sometimes as Killaspigmullane ) parish union"

Killaspugmullane parish is much further south from Mitchelstown and is closer to the town of Glanmire.

Roger

OOhh thank you and thanks to Shane.  I will follow that line. 

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Peta:

Shane found some additional info which ties to the Wood Hill reference in your note.

" a little more on Rev. Bolster - directory listings (e.g. 1867 Henry and Coghlan ) show him living at Wood Hill Terrace which was near to Wood Hill house, this was off Lower Glanmire Road to the east of Cork city. The terrace and house are shown on the 1st edition OS map.  Two additional details - he is listed at the same parish back to 1848 at least and seems to remain there until he retired, he died at Woodhill terrace in 1883."

Roger

Peta:

Some more good news from Shane. Based on his finding, your Warner family was likely from Mitchellsfort townland in Kilquane civil parish Co. Cork rather than the town of Mitchelstown. This explains why the Rev. Bolster had a parish a good deal away from Mitchelstown.

Roger

"John A. Bolster's wife was an Anna Maria Young, she's mentioned in his probate entry, they married near Nenagh, Co. Tipperary in 1848, the minister was a Samuel B. Young, and the two witnesses were also Young - possible relations ? Samuel B. Young is listed as John A. Bolster's curate at Killaspugmullane Parish Union in 1848 (Thom's Ecclesiastical Directory).

Killaspugmullane was a parish Union and also included the civil parishes of Cannaway (Cannaboy), Kilquane (Kilcoan), Ballydelohar (Ballyloohera) and Tempeusque, using this list of parishes along with the surname Warner on a Griffith's Primary Valuation search (FMP) shows  just one result, a John Warner at Mitchellsfort townland, Kilquane civil parish Barrymore barony (there's more than one Kilquane in Co. Cork) , he is listed occupying House, office and land of a little over 122 acres, he also sub-lets a small property. Could Mitchellsfort have been misheard/misunderstood and confused with Mitchelstown ?
 

Unfortunately it's not looking good for records for this CofI parish Union, most of the early records are listed as lost, just marriages from 1848 seem to have survived, which should be covered by civil records ".

Peta:

More from Shane.

Roger

There's a possible sibling to James Warner at the townland in  1901 and 1911 -  Thomas Warner and family, his marriage cert shows father as John Warner a farmer... :

1901 census : http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Cork/Knockraha/Mitchellsfort/1139947/
1911 census : http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Cork/Knockraha/Mitchellsfort/407733/

Thomas born c1831

Marriage of THOMAS WARNER and ELIZABETH SADLIER on 05 January 1865
  https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/details-civil/2e9e733077242

groom occ. farmer res. Watergrass Hill father John Warner farmer
bride res. Queenstown, father David, Shoemaker
witnesses : John Sadlier & William Warner

Thank you, thank you Shane and Roger. So many leads to follow. I'll need some time to cross check all this against the snippets and documents i have and comb through for any hints that I've miseed.  Thank you, your help means so much.