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Trying to trace Thomas George Greenaway from Tandragee County Armagh Northern Ireland  who emigrated possibly to Canada but not sure. This would have been sometime after 1920. He was married to Elizabeth McGuigan and had 4 Children Robert, John Elizabeth and William. His wife died in 1930 and he was never heard of again. He was left a considerable farm premises by his Aunt which the children were unable to claim because there was no contact from him.

Obviously he has passed on now but any information would be gratefully appreciated.

 

Laura McAdam 13 Village Walk Portadown County Armagh N.Ireland Bt63 5TL

 

vernon9

Thursday 1st Jul 2021, 01:24PM

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  • There is information about at Thomas George Greenaway here: https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/R2048920
    I do not know if it is the person you are seeking, but have a look.

    Patricia

    Thursday 1st Jul 2021, 02:32PM
  • Hello Laura,

    At the FamilySearch and Ancestry.com websites I could not identify any records that pertain to the Greenway family in Canada, but I did uncover information about Thomas George Greenway, his wife Elizabeth McGuigan, and three of their four children in Ireland I’m not sure if you have what follows:

    According to a copy of their original civil registration marriage cert located at the free irishgenealogy.ie website, Thomas George Greenway and Elizabeth “McGuiggan” were married in the Registrar’s Office, Banbridge, Down, on 4 April 1912. At the time of marriage both were of “full age,” and both were residing in Tandragee. Thomas’s occupation was Labourer. No occupation is recorded for Elizabeth. Thomas’s father is George Greenway, employed as a Labourer. Elizabeth’s father is Peter McGuiggan, also employed as a Labourer. The first name of one of the witnesses to the marriage looks like it could be Laurence. I couldn’t make out his last name, nor could I decipher the name of the second witness because of the handwriting. Both witnesses signed the marriage document with an X, signifying they could not read or write. The name of the registrar who recorded the marriage looks like it could be Wm. MacCormac, but I could be wrong about his last name. The marriage is the first one in the register at Number 88, which you can access at: https://is.gd/VRd20r

    A Google Map shows that Banbridge, County Down, by the shortest modern-day route, is 7.4 miles east of Tandragee, Armagh: https://is.gd/H2MvRT

    Your information shows that Thomas and Elizabeth had four children: Robert, John, Elizabeth, and William. I located the civil registration birth records for three of the children at irishgenealogy.ie. These are for Robert George Greenway, John Greenway, and Sarah Elizabeth Greenway.

    The birth record I didn’t find is for William. If William was born after 1920, there will not be a birth record for him at irishgenealogy.ie, as digitized copies of original births records are only placed online to 1920 at this time. For more information about what records are online at irishgenealogy.ie, see: https://is.gd/eHg5LG

    BIRTH OF ROBERT GEORGE GREENWAY

    Robert George Greenway was born in “Cargins,” Armagh (Civil Parish of Banbridge), on 10 May 1913. His father is Thomas George Greenway, a Labourer residing in Cargins. Thomas’s mother is Elizabeth Greenway, formerly McGuigan. Thomas George Greenway reported the birth to the assistant registrar, whose name I could not read because of the handwriting. Robert George Greenway’s birth was recorded in the Banbridge Registration District on 23 May, 1913. His birth can be found at Number 492 in the birth register at: https://is.gd/O2DNta

    BIRTH OF JOHN GREENWAY

    John Greenway was born in Cargans, Armagh, on 1 January 1919. His father is George Greenway, a Labourer living in Cargans. His mother is Elizabeth Greenway, formerly McGuigan. George Greenway reported John’s birth to the registrar, James Taylor, who recorded the birth in the Banbridge Registration District on 28 January 1919. John’s birth is the last one in the register at Number 105. See: https://is.gd/bTH85b

    BIRTH OF SARAH ELIZABETH GREENWAY

    Sarah Elizabeth Greenway was born in Cargans, Armagh, on 9 May 1920. Her father is Thomas George Greenway, a Labourer from Cargans. Her mother is Elizabeth Greenway, formerly “McGengian.” Sarah’s father Thomas reported the birth to the registrar, James Taylor, who recorded the birth in the Banbridge Registration District on 1 June 1920. Sarah Elizabeth’s birth is Number 255 in the register at: https://is.gd/Wnfxo8

    I went back to Google Maps and looked for Cargans in County Armagh, but all the Google Map displayed was Gargans Road, 1.8 miles west of Tandragee, over the Cusher River: https://is.gd/5oGOxI

    In looking at the years the Greenway children were born, you’ll notice there are no births for 1914, 1915, 1916, 1917, and 1918. This could be a sign that children were miscarried, or stillborn during those years. The other indication is that the father, Thomas George Greenway, was in the military from 1914 to 1918, which are the same years that World War I was being fought.

    Knowing that Thomas George Greenway’s father was George Greenway, and that Elizabeth McGuigan’s father was Peter McGuigan, I looked for their individual civil birth records at the irishgenealogy.ie website but could not identify them. I would really need to know the first and maiden names of their mothers for a more accurate search of the birth records.

    But, I did uncover evidence that the Greenway family had lived in the townland of Cargans several years before Thomas George Greenway was married in 1912. I found an Isaac Greenway, a James Greenway, and a William Greenway leasing property in Cargans, Civil Parish of Ballymore, County Armagh. This comes from an Irish property tax record known as Griffiths Valuation. Griffiths Valuation was enumerated in the 32 counties of Ireland between 1847 and 1864. The valuation for Cargans, Armagh, and surrounding townlands, was completed by the year 1863.

    Unlike a census, Griffiths Valuation did not enumerate individual members of a family, such as husband, wife, and children in a household residence. Those named in the valuation were individuals who paid to lease property, such as land, houses, and outbuildings. Each person who paid to lease the property was called an “Occupier.” The other person listed in Griffiths Valuation was the person who owned the property, or who worked as the middleman collecting the rent on Gale Day for the owner. This middleman was called the “Immediate Lessor.”

    You can access Griffiths Valuation transcriptions and original copies for free at the askaboutireland website link at:
    http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

    Th Griffiths Valuation page where the Greenways are record is attached to this reply. In the left column of the valuation you’ll see letters and numbers. These are map reference numbers delineating the location of property in Cargans on an Ordnance Survey Map.

    For example, Isaac Greenway’s lease is located at Map Reference 29A B. James Greenway’s lease is at Map Reference 30, and William Greenway at Map Reference 31. Individually, the three had leased a house, office, and land. An “office” in a Griffiths Valuation record may refer to outbuildings such as a barn, stable, blacksmith shop, piggery, etc.

    They leased their property from the Duke of Manchester.

    I’ve attached the Ordnance Survey Map that accompanied Griffiths Valuation for the townland of Cargans. The leases for Isaac, James, and William Greenway are at the bottom middle of the map. For instance, James Greenway’s property at Map Reference Number 30, is just west of Rock Hill Wood at the very bottom of the map.

    Isaac Greenway’s property at Map Reference Number 29A is just northwest of James’s lease. Right above 29A you’ll see the Map Reference Number 31, which is the location William’s lease.

    Running across the very top of the map, in block letters, is the name of the town, CARGANS, though this is difficult to see because the block lettering is a very light shade of grey.

    I next looked for, but didn’t find the surname McGuigan and variants, leasing property in Cargans, County Armagh.

    With Kind Regards,

    Dave Boylan

    Sources

    FamilySearch
    Ancestry.com
    irishgenealogy.ie
    Google Maps
    http://www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml

    davepat

    Friday 2nd Jul 2021, 01:41PM

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