Patrick Gorman (New Information)

Jim:

The subscription site Roots Ireland has a March 17 1856 baptismal record for a Patrick Gorman with father Patrick Gorman and mother Mary Joy. The parish was Carrickbeg. The witnesses were Patrick Power and Catherine Power. 

Patrick had the fiollowing siblings: Catherine 1844 James 1845 Elizabeth 1849 (died young?) Elizabeth 1852 Ellen 1854 Mary 1861

The parents married in Carrickbeg on February 21 1843

Roger McDonnell

Roger,

Thank you for this info!  I think this is very helpful and surprising at the same time.

Is there anyway of determining if there are and decendants or relatives that may be still in the area in Ireland?

If I have any further questions I will post them.

Thanks Again!

Jim Gorman

Jim:

I think it possible that you have distant relatives in the area but I read your note to say that the entire Patrick Gorman/Mary Joy Gorman family emigrated in 1863. Maybe siblings of Patrick Gorman have descendants in the area. If you have not done so already, I would take an autosomal DNA test. You might get some matches on your Gorman/Joy line or on your Power line. The matches likely will not be in Ireland but maybe they have info on connections back in Ireland. As McCoy advised in his response on your other message, finding Power connections in Ireland would be very difficult.

Roger

Thanks for the response.  I understand that the Power(s) line may be difficult as there are so many in the area.  However, I was wondering about the Gorman/Joy side of the family.  

I am sorry if I provided some confusion but I believe that only Patrick Gorman in 1883 and Bridget Power in 1882 emmigrated to the USA.  I believe their families: Mother, Father, Siblings remained in Ireland that is why I thought maybe there might be a thread that could be followed.

I have had a DNA test performed through Ancestry.com I am not sure if the one that you referenced might have more use in Ireland.  I could pursue that.

Again, I am just hopeful that the Gorman portion of the family may be easier to trace.

Again, Thanks So Much!

Jim Gorman

Jim:

The Ancestry test is autosomal. You will more than likely have matches in the USA, Canada, Australia etc rather than Ireland but if you do get an Irish match-- great! You will find that less than half the people you contact will respond back.

There are three civil parishes which have Carrickbeg as the RC parish-- Dysert, Fenoagh and Kilmoleran.

I looked at the 1901 census records for all Gormans in Waterford (126 in total) and I believe that your Gormans came from Curraghnagarraha townland in Fenoagh civil parish. I found a 70 year old ( I believe that age was significantly understated) Patrick Gorman a widower in Curraghnagarraha. He was not there in 1911 so likely died.

I went on the free site www.irishgenealogy.ie and found the 1903 death record for Patrick and the 1895 death record for his wife Mary. See below. The informants could be daughters but we don't know.

Mary Gorman 1895 death record   see 9th record at link Catherine Brien was informant  daughter??   https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…;  

1901 census record   http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Waterford/Fenoagh/Curr…

Patrck Gorman died 1903  Eliza Power informant daughter??

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_retu…

If you can't find any more info from DNA matches, you may want to consider placing an article/letter in a Waterford paper. 

Roger

Roger,

Thank you again for the response and research.  You have all helped me greatly.  I will take a look through this dats and see what else I can find.

I truely appreciate all of the work that you and your colleagues do to help researchers.

I will keep the process going who knows where this will lead.

Thanks Again,

Jim