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Hello all.

My friend and I are researching the family of Sarah Dunceith (or Dunseath) who was born on 24 May 1844 in County Antrim, at least according to her death certificate in 1917 in Pennsylvania, USA (see attached) as well as this month and year being mentioned in her census returns. Sarah is my friend's 3rd great-grandmother, and I am wondering where I may be able to find records relating to her as we've been trying to expand further into both Sarah's family and her husband Richard Moon's. I believe she was Presbyterian as she married Richard Moon, also from Ireland, on 5 December 1870 in a Presbyterian church in Pittsburgh, Allegheny, Pennsylvania, USA. Sarah emigrated to the US with her older sister Catherine in 1863, both departing from Liverpool. Her father was also noted as William Dunceith but I'm finding it hard to actually track this family down. The information on Sarah's death certificate in 1917 was provided by Sadie A Clawson, her daughter and we're puzzled as to why she said that Sarah's parents were from Scotland when Sarah herself said her parents were born in Ireland on multiple censuses so this may be an error. Many thanks in advance for any help/advice you can provide.

stardomax

Monday 1st Nov 2021, 01:50AM

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  • Hello, Ancestry.com has some public trees showing this family. One shows that Sarah was married first to William Craig, who died in 1871 in PA. There is  a Joseph Dunseath buried with Wm. Craig.

     

    I hope this is helpful.

    Patricia

    Monday 1st Nov 2021, 04:02PM
  • Hi Patricia,

    Yes I have this in my tree, not sure when she married William Craig but when she got married on 5 Dec 1870, she's down as Sarah J Craig as well as the 1870 US Census which has her living with her sister Catherine and Sarah's two children. I believe Joseph Dunceith is Sarah and Catherine's younger brother

    stardomax

    Monday 1st Nov 2021, 08:13PM
  • If the Dunseith family was Presbyterian then that indicates Scottish origins. The vast majority of Scots settlers arrived in Co Antrim (and other parts of Ulster) in the 1600s.  Presbyterian is the most common denomination in Co Antrim because majority of the population in that county are descendants of Scots settlers. (Known as Scots-Irish in North America and Ulster-Scots in Ireland).  If Sarah said her parents were born in Ireland then I’d be inclined to believe that, as she was more likely to know than the informant for her death certificate. Mistakes on death certificates are common. Her daughter probably was aware there was a Scottish connection somewhere and guessed Sarah’s parents place of birth but, in my opinion, the link to Scotland would have been several generations further back in time.

    Death registration started in Ireland in 1864. Looking at the deaths in Co Antrim 1854 to 1920, I can see several of men old enough to be Sarah’s father, notably around Ballymena and Randalstown.  But without more information eg a mother’s name and William’s occupation it’s not possible to say which, if any, is the right one.

    A birth around 1844 is well before the start of birth registration in Ireland (again 1864) and so you need to rely on church baptism records. Not all churches have records for 1844 and of those that do, not all are on-line. However where they survive, they are in PRONI (the public record office) in Belfast. A personal visit is required to view them. If you get no other leads, you might want to visit PRONI and search the Presbyterian records in and around Ballymnea. 

    If you could find Sarah’s marriage to William Craig, then that might give a mother’s name which would help a lot. 

    I can see a gravestone for William Dunseath in Clough graveyard (north of Ballymena). No date or further information on it. Also this in Grange Presbyterian churchyard near Randalstown:

    Erected by DAVID DUNSEATH, GILLISTOWN. In Memory Of His Father WILLIAM DUNSEATH, Who Died 28th November. 1895. Aged 87 Years. Also His Mother ESTHER DUNSEATH, Who Died 11th January, 1892. Aged 81 Years. And His Wife MARGARET DUNSEATH, Who Died 13th April, 1935. Aged 89 Years. Also The Above Named DAVID DUNSEATH, Who Died 4th May. 1938. Aged 86 Years.

    Possibly DNA testing may be a way of matching with others who have additional information about where the family originate. Family Tree DNA reportedly has more people with Ulster roots than any other company. That obviously increases the chances of finding a match. You might want to try them or, if you have already tested, you can transfer your results to them for no fee.

    The North of Ireland Family History Society is running an Ulster DNA project in conjunction with FTDNA and can offer testing kits at a reduced price.  http://www.nifhs.org (Go to DNA project on the website).

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Wednesday 3rd Nov 2021, 04:55AM

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