Cloonaman and Kilelton Townlands

I am trying to determine exactly where my great grandfather, Patrick Hickey's (born Ballylongford 1859, died Brooklyn 1927) actually resided. I have researched amny records for the family of his parents, Edmund Hickey and Hannah Curnane, his grandparents, Patrick Hickey and Johanna McElligot, and his sister, Margaret Hickey and her husband, Michael Broder (Broderick). The vast majority of records go back and forth between Cloonaman and Kilelton. (My Hickeys/Hickies were not the landlord Hickie family of Kilelton House but were their tenants.

Because Patrick's father, Edmund, was recorded as a fisherman and a boatman, I thought residence nearest to the Shannon shoreline might be logical.

I am just wondering whether the records suggest movement back and forth between Kilelton and Cloonaman, which I know adjoin each other. Or is it possible that they always resided in the one townland close by the boundary of the other townland and recordkeepest confused them? Or because they were tenants of the Kilelton Hickies, record keepers just wrote down Kilelton as their address.

Anyway, I just thought some local folks might have observations. I have made a list of records that I know pertain to my family. Please see below and thank you for any observations.

Ed Stewart

Address References for the of the families of Patrick Hickey and Johanna McElligot, and of their son, Edmond Hickey (Hickie) and Hannah Curnane, and of Edmund’s daughter, Margaret Hickey Broder and her husband, Michael Broder (Broderick)

 These Hickeys/Hickies (my family) and Broders were tenants on the estate of William Hickie of Kilelton House and were unlikely to have been related to their Hickie landlords.

1824 Tithe Aplotments for Aghavallen Parish – Patk & Wm Hickey of Rushy Park (possibly the same family)

1828 Baptism of William, son of Patrick and Johanna McElligott Hickey of Cloonaman

1833 Baptism of Edmund, son of Patrick and Johanna McElligott Hickey  of Cloonaman

1836 Baptism of John, son of Patrick and Johanna McElligott Hickey of Asdee

1847-1851 Griffiths Valuations (House Books + Valuations) - In the House Books, the houses of Patrick Hickey and William Hickey of Cloonaman are marked as down with Patrick assuming residency in a former Scanlon house also in Cloonaman. In the actual Valuation, Patrick is leasing a house without land at  Cloonaman.

1856 Marriage of Edmund Hickie (address not reported) and Honora Curnane of Ballylongford

1860 Petty Court Session  Record - Patrick Hickie of Clounaman (likely Edmund’s father or brother)

1862 Baptism of William, son of Edmund and Hannah Curnane Hickey of Kilelton

1865 Baptism of Michael, son of Edmund and Hannah Curnane Hickey of Kilelton

1868 Baptism of Edmund, son of Edmund and Hannah Curnane Hickey of Kilelton

1876 Petty Court Session Record - Edmond and Patrick Hickey (Father and likely his oldest son) of Kilelton (for using an unnamed boat and netting fish illegally in the tideway adjoining the shore at Kilelton) (There is a weir at Clounaman).

1877 Marriage of Michael Broder & Margaret Hickey (daughter of Edmund and Hannah Curnane Hickey) both of Kilelton

1879 Baptism of Julia, daughter of Michael and Margaret Hickey Broder  of Kilelton

1882 Baptism of Johanna Broder, daughter of Michael and Margaret Hickey Broder of Kilelton

1884 Baptism of Edmund, son of Michael and Margaret Hickey Broder of Kilelton

1890 Death of Edmund Hickie of Kilelton,  fisherman and husband of Hannah Curnane

1893 Baptism of Michael, son of Michael and Margaret Hickey Broder of Kilelton

1894 Baptism of Mary, daughter of Michael and Margaret Hickey Broder of Kilelton

1899-1902 Petty Court Session Record - Attempts by William Hickie, landlord of Kilelton House, to evict Hannah Hickie (Hannah Curnane, widow of Edmund Hickey and mother of Margaret Broder) from the dwelling house and that part of the lands of Clounaman

1901 Census Family of Michael and Margaret Hickey Broder and Hanoria Hickey listed as residing at Cloonaman

1902 Petty Court Session Record - Edward Hickey of Clounaman (son of Edmund and Hannah Curnane Hickey, he as single so assumed residing with his mother or sister)

1902 Petty Session Record (Eviction Order) for Michael Broder from the lands of Kilelton

1904 Death of Edmond Broder of Kilelton, son of Michael and Margaret Hickey Broder   

1905 Petty Court Session Record - Edward Hickey of Kilelton (son of Edmund and Hannah Curnane Hickey)

1909 Death of Michael Broder of Clounaman (son of Michael and Margaret Hickey Broder)

1910 Death of Hannah Hickie of Kilelton (Hannah was the widow of Edmund Hickie)

1911 Census Margaret Hickie Broder, her daughter, Margaret, and her brother, Edward Hickey, listed as residing Cloonaman

1913 Death of Edmond (Edward) Hickie of Kilelton (son of Edmund and Hannah Curnane Hickey)

1913 Death of Margaret Broder of Kilelton (daughter of Michael and Margaret Hickey Broder)

1918 Death of Margaret Broder of Kilelton at Curraghtoosane Hospital (widow of Michael Broder, daughter of Edmund and Hannah Curnane Hickey)

1937  Johanna Hickey, the daughter of Edmund and Hannah Curnane Hickey, claims in her 1937 USA Naturalization request that she was born at Kilelton in 1861.

The addresses for my Hickey family members seem to go back and forth between the townlands of Cloonaman and Kilelton for a period of over 90 years, save for two early records - one for Rushy Park in the Tithe Aplotments (possibly the right family) and the other Asdee (definitely the correct family). My Patrick Hickey is listed in Griffiths Valuations as resident in a house without land at Cloonaman. This could be consistent with a landless laborer whose son, Edmund, is subsequently listed in various records as a fisherman, boatman and laborer. Patrick Hickey’s enumeration of 4Bi in Cloonaman has been difficult to coordinate with surviving Ordinance Survey maps.

Several years ago, Michael Lynch of the Kerry County Library generously took a look at the GV and the Ordinance Survey maps and suggested that it looked to him that the original assigned numbers might have been renumbered and that the correct location of the Hickey house might be along the road between Asdee and Ballylongford. On the other hand folks from the LGMA.ie did not see it the same way.

I suppose what I’m looking for it is a local or expert opinion in terms of Ballylongford as to whether based upon the above records it likely that my family was moving back and forth between Kilelton and Cloonaman or perhaps lived in one or the other townland close to the border with the other townland, hence uncertainty in terms of record keeping with the correct address and that in actuality they were actually residing in one place.