Mara Family

Dennis:

I can't read the monument to your ancestors so I'm not sure what info is shown.

The Patrick Mara/Meara who married Johanna Drake in 1832 in Knocklong Co. Limerick appear to have a child named Ellen in May 1843 in Ballylanders RC parish which borders Knocklong parish. They also had a Johanna baptized September 8 1833. These records were found on the subscription site Roots Ireland.

Have you considered a DNA test? You may get matches on your Mara/Drake line and your matches may have more info on the family origins in Ireland.

Let me know if you have any questions.

Roger McDonnell

Mr. McDonnell:

Many thanks for your thoughtful reply...it look slike I have more work to do on this family.

Here's the Marr inscription on the monument:

On the north face of this monument is the following inscription:

              Erected by Catherine Hickey August 1887
                          in Memory of her Father
              Patrick Marr Who Died At Montréal, Canada
                                 1848  Aged 35
                                    Cenotaph
              Also her Mother Johanna Marr Died at Troy, NY
                          May 22, 1877 Aged 60

I have taken both the Ancestry.con autosomal DNA test as well as FamilyTreeDNA's Big Y YDNA test. I',m part of their Marr et. al.Haplogroup. When they did the BigY test (38,000 markers) it revealed 13 Novel Variants, markers that would not be expected in that Haplogroup...one other person, adopted but father's name Flanigan, shares 11 Novel Variants with me. This was extraordinary enough that they put the 2 of us in our own Haplogroup. Our ancestors were in Ireland well before the Celts. The connection is too distant to be of genealogical help.

I had searched the Irish Catholic Parish Registers at Ancestry.com and had noticed the birth of the child Joanna in 1833...could not determine when she might have died.

I never expected such a prompt reply to my query.

Thank you for the help. I may be back to you in the future.

Dennis

Mr. McDonnell:

Many thanks for your thoughtful reply...it look slike I have more work to do on this family.

Here's the Marr inscription on the monument:

On the north face of this monument is the following inscription:

              Erected by Catherine Hickey August 1887
                          in Memory of her Father
              Patrick Marr Who Died At Montréal, Canada
                                 1848  Aged 35
                                    Cenotaph
              Also her Mother Johanna Marr Died at Troy, NY
                          May 22, 1877 Aged 60

I have taken both the Ancestry.con autosomal DNA test as well as FamilyTreeDNA's Big Y YDNA test. I',m part of their Marr et. al.Haplogroup. When they did the BigY test (38,000 markers) it revealed 13 Novel Variants, markers that would not be expected in that Haplogroup...one other person, adopted but father's name Flanigan, shares 11 Novel Variants with me. This was extraordinary enough that they put the 2 of us in our own Haplogroup. Our ancestors were in Ireland well before the Celts. The connection is too distant to be of genealogical help.

I had searched the Irish Catholic Parish Registers at Ancestry.com and had noticed the birth of the child Joanna in 1833...could not determine when she might have died.

I never expected such a prompt reply to my query.

Thank you for the help. I may be back to you in the future.

Dennis

Mr. McDonnell:

Many thanks for your thoughtful reply...it look slike I have more work to do on this family.

Here's the Marr inscription on the monument:

On the north face of this monument is the following inscription:

              Erected by Catherine Hickey August 1887
                          in Memory of her Father
              Patrick Marr Who Died At Montréal, Canada
                                 1848  Aged 35
                                    Cenotaph
              Also her Mother Johanna Marr Died at Troy, NY
                          May 22, 1877 Aged 60

I have taken both the Ancestry.con autosomal DNA test as well as FamilyTreeDNA's Big Y YDNA test. I',m part of their Marr et. al.Haplogroup. When they did the BigY test (38,000 markers) it revealed 13 Novel Variants, markers that would not be expected in that Haplogroup...one other person, adopted but father's name Flanigan, shares 11 Novel Variants with me. This was extraordinary enough that they put the 2 of us in our own Haplogroup. Our ancestors were in Ireland well before the Celts. The connection is too distant to be of genealogical help.

I had searched the Irish Catholic Parish Registers at Ancestry.com and had noticed the birth of the child Joanna in 1833...could not determine when she might have died.

I never expected such a prompt reply to my query.

Thank you for the help. I may be back to you in the future.

Dennis

Mr. McDonnell:

Many thanks for your thoughtful reply...it look slike I have more work to do on this family.

Here's the Marr inscription on the monument:

On the north face of this monument is the following inscription:

              Erected by Catherine Hickey August 1887
                          in Memory of her Father
              Patrick Marr Who Died At Montréal, Canada
                                 1848  Aged 35
                                    Cenotaph
              Also her Mother Johanna Marr Died at Troy, NY
                          May 22, 1877 Aged 60

I have taken both the Ancestry.con autosomal DNA test as well as FamilyTreeDNA's Big Y YDNA test. I',m part of their Marr et. al.Haplogroup. When they did the BigY test (38,000 markers) it revealed 13 Novel Variants, markers that would not be expected in that Haplogroup...one other person, adopted but father's name Flanigan, shares 11 Novel Variants with me. This was extraordinary enough that they put the 2 of us in our own Haplogroup. Our ancestors were in Ireland well before the Celts. The connection is too distant to be of genealogical help.

I had searched the Irish Catholic Parish Registers at Ancestry.com and had noticed the birth of the child Joanna in 1833...could not determine when she might have died.

I never expected such a prompt reply to my query.

Thank you for the help. I may be back to you in the future.

Dennis

Mr. McDonnell:

Many thanks for your thoughtful reply...it look slike I have more work to do on this family.

Here's the Marr inscription on the monument:

On the north face of this monument is the following inscription:

              Erected by Catherine Hickey August 1887
                          in Memory of her Father
              Patrick Marr Who Died At Montréal, Canada
                                 1848  Aged 35
                                    Cenotaph
              Also her Mother Johanna Marr Died at Troy, NY
                          May 22, 1877 Aged 60

I have taken both the Ancestry.con autosomal DNA test as well as FamilyTreeDNA's Big Y YDNA test. I',m part of their Marr et. al.Haplogroup. When they did the BigY test (38,000 markers) it revealed 13 Novel Variants, markers that would not be expected in that Haplogroup...one other person, adopted but father's name Flanigan, shares 11 Novel Variants with me. This was extraordinary enough that they put the 2 of us in our own Haplogroup. Our ancestors were in Ireland well before the Celts. The connection is too distant to be of genealogical help.

I had searched the Irish Catholic Parish Registers at Ancestry.com and had noticed the birth of the child Joanna in 1833...could not determine when she might have died.

I never expected such a prompt reply to my query.

Thank you for the help. I may be back to you in the future.

Dennis

Hi Dennis!

Our system response time has been slow at times so your response was posted four times.

We have a number of volunteers who monitor the message board and try to respond to the messages that are posted. Most of the volunteers are in Ireland but a few like myself live in the States or another country.

I've tested with Ancestry and have taken the Y-DNA test up to 111 markers but I was underwhelmed with the results so I've not taken the plunge with the Big Y test.

I have to be honest when I read the story about one child born in Massachusetts in 1840 and the next child born in New Jersey in 1841 and Patrick dying in Quebec in 1849, I was a little skeptical. Maybe Patrick's occupation required him to move around a lot.

Let me know if I can help further.

Roger

Roger..

I could not find Ellen's birth on Ancestry's Irish Parish records...likely an indexxing issue. I'm going to subscribe to Roots Ireland foe a month ond poke aroundthere.

Dennis

Dennis:

A little more background. The parish register for Ballylanders on the NLI site is here https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0244  and you will note that baptismal records start in 1849. Ancestry used the NLI parish registers to transcribe their records and upload them to their data base which would explain not finding a record for Ellen on Ancestry.

The NLI parish registers were microfilmed in the 1950s. I can only presume that the parish located some earlier records (1842-1848) which were available when the Co. Limerick Heritage group working under the Roots Ireland umbrella transcribed the Ballylanders records.

Roger

Thanks for this, Roger.

Dennis