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I am trying to find out more about SAMUEL SWEENEY - his life in Ireland and his famiily -  and would appreciate any help or suggestions!

He was born in Ireland (Buncrana, Donegal? ) in 1836, judging from the age on the passenger list (38) when he sailed for Australia in 1874.  However, his death certificate suggests he may have been born in 1831. His given age of 40 on his 1875 marriage certificate to Thirza Turner, supports the former date. Place of birth on the death certificate is given as Londonderry. However, the 1975 marriage certificate gives Buncrana, Donegal, as his place of birth.
Samuel's mother’s name on the records of the Townsville cemetery, where Samuel was buried in 1899, is Jane Watts.The name of his father on his marriage record Samuel Edward Sweeney, whose occupation was a clothier (maker of clothes). However, his occupation on his son’s 1875 marriage certificate is given as farmer. Other researchers give 1877 as the date of death for both Jane Watt and Samuel Edward Sweeney.  However, I could not find any definitive records confirming this, or indeed any details about these two people.
I also could not find any information about where Samuel Sweeney grew up, where he lived or whether he married. There is a record of Samuel Sweeney apprenticed on a ship called the Corfu, registered in Belfast. The record is dated 1851, and the age of the apprentice is 14.
The first confirmed record of Samuel Sweeney is his departure from England on the ship Derbyshire, on April 1 1874

Thanks

 

Col

Friday 20th May 2022, 08:10AM

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  • Col,

    Here’s a death for Samuel Sweeney, clothier, in the Bogside, Derry in 1879. Aged 88. His wife had pre-deceased him.

    Buncrana to Derry is not a long journey (many people commute that today) and so it’s quite possible that Samuel junior was born there and that the family later moved to Derry for work. Clothes making and in particular shirts was a big industry in Derry.

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06507/4873780.pdf

    Can’t see a death for Jane that fits. Possibly she died before 1864 when death registration started. There was a death for a Jane Sweney in Inishowen registration area (which includes Buncrana) in 1867 aged 81 but that seems a bit too old. The cert isn’t viewable on-line so you might need to order it from GRO Roscommon to get the full details.

    A problem you face is that few RC parishes in Donegal have any records for the period you need. Buncrana is in Desertegny parish and their records don’t start till 1864. So tracing the family may be hard going.

     

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 20th May 2022, 08:55AM
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    Griffith’s Valuation of Donegal in 1857 shows four Samuels in Donegal.

    • Mcsweeny           Samuel           Cavan Lower            Donaghmore            Co. Donegal  
    • Sweeney  Samuel           Ballymacarry            Fahan Lower Co. Donegal  (this is in the electoral division of Buncrana Rural)
    • Sweeny    Samuel           Tullyarvan    Fahan Lower Co. Donegal  (this seems to be in the electoral divisions of Buncrana Rural and Buncrana Urban)
    • Sweeny    Samuel           Woodhill       Raymoghy     Co. Donegal

    I hope this is helpful.

    Patricia

    Friday 20th May 2022, 07:17PM

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