Trainer's of Ballylintach, Derry

In Griffith’s Valuation of Londonderry, complete in 1859, there was a Traynor in the townland of Crossgare, which is adjacent to Ballylintagh. This is likely a relative of your Bartholomew.

Traynor William Crossgare Macosquin Co. Derry

Barthy Trainer in the 1831 census for Ballylintagh. 7 males and 4 females, all Presbyterian.

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Coleraine/Mecasquin/Ballylintagh/1/

Next door was a second Barthy Trainer with a household of 4 males and 2 females, again all Presbyterian. So cousins perhaps?

http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1831/Londonderry/Coleraine/Macosquin/Ballylintagh/2/

Both families were gone by the time of Griffiths in 1859, so presumably both Barthy’s had died. Since that’s pre civil registration, unless there’s gravestones, you may struggle to find when they died. Gravestone transcriptions from Ballylintagh Presbyterian church are in PRONI: D 3672/8. (They may be listed elsewhere but that’s one place you will find them).

T1617/4/1A  in PRONI are the rent arrears for Ballylintagh in 1748. Might be worth checking to see if any Trainers are listed.

Thank you Patricia & Elwyn for answering my post. Is there any way to find out more about the tax assessment & what it means? I should have said on my post that  a Bartholomew Trainer  was my g.g.grandfather. He married Margaret Birds in Tipperary, their daughter was born in Dublin & they migrated to South Australia in 1840. Mother & daughter died soon after arrival, he then married Catherine Largay, my g.g. grandmother. Bart died in 1850. 

Regards, Carolyn

Carolyn,

I am uncertain what the 1828 reference is. The approximate year suggests the tithe applotment records which were a tax levied on land, so mostly on farmers. However I have checked the tithe records for Ballylintagh (which were recorded along with the parish of Aghadowey) in 1832, and there’s no Trainers listed. So it’s not that.

http://www.irishgenealogyhub.com/derry/tithe-applotments/aghadowey-parish.php

Where did you find the reference to the 1828 tax assessment?

The two Bartholomew Trainers in Ballylintagh in the 1831 census were both Presbyterian (ie Protestant), as was everyone else in their families. So how does that fit with what you know about your family?  Your 1838 marriage was RC, indicating bride and groom were both RC. That probably makes the Presbyterian Ballylintagh families unlikely.

I note that your ancestor married in Co. Tipperary in 1838 (I can see the marriage in the RC records, and it was actually in Thurles parish).

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632770#page/15/mode/1up

That’s quite a distance from Ballylintagh.  It’s not impossible that a man from Co Derry might marry a girl from Co. Tip, especially if he were in the army or some other occupation that involved travel, but in general folk married locally, usually within a few miles of where they both were born. I’d expect your Bart to have come from the Co. Tip area.

Have you any idea of his occupation in Ireland?

If you get a researcher to check the Ballylintagh Presbyterian gravestones (transcript in PRONI) you may find the Bartholomews there in 1831, died there. Judging by the size of their families, both look to have been married in 1831 too. Though they may have had unmarried sons named Bartholomew.