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Trying to find birth/baptism records for Mary Anne Nelson, born berween 1858and 1862, probably in Counties Down, Antrim or elsewhere in Ulster.

She married Alexander Johnston on 13 October 1882, with an address of 129 Vernon Street given on the marriage certificate.

She appears as Mary Anne Johnston on the 1901 Census, living at 14 Coolbeg Street, Belfast with her 17 year old son, William.

Any help gratefully received!

David Johnston

DeeSeaJay

Monday 11th Jul 2022, 09:47PM

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  • David,

    According to the 1901 census, Mary Ann was born in Co Down, so I’d suggest that should be the focus of your search.

    Tradition was to marry in the bride’s church or denomination. The couple married in St Anne’s in 1882. That was Church of Ireland. Both the marriage certificate and the 1901 census point to a birth before 1864 which is when birth registration started.  So you won’t find a birth certificate for her. You may find her baptism.  That looks likely to have been in a Church of Ireland church. Not all their records have survived and of those that have, not all are on-line.  Those that do still exist are in PRONI, and some are on the rootsireland site (subscription).

    Mary Ann’s father was Hugh Nelson, and I read his occupation as “farmer.” I searched deaths in Co Down 1864 – 1901 for farmers named Hugh Nelson, of an age to be her father. I found these 2:

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1883/06379/4831169.pdf

    https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1875/020607/7230535.pdf

    You could search the COI baptism records for the parishes that those men lived in.

    There are about 7 Hugh Nelsons in Co Down in Griffiths Valuation (c 1860).  You could go through them and determine which was  a farmer from the type of property they had, and then search those church records (the parishes are all shown in Griffiths).

    If Mary Anne’s father died pre 1864, the search will be a bit harder but given that she was only born a year or two earlier, you have to hope he was still alive then.

    Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Tuesday 12th Jul 2022, 08:50AM
  • DeeSeaJay

    Friday 15th Jul 2022, 08:05AM
  • Hi Elwyn. Many thanks for your helpful reply.
    I have tried most of the suggestions you make, but like the idea to attempt to cross connect the two Hugh Nelson deaths with Griffith's. I'll pursue this further. Thanks! I have already been to PRONI three times looking at church records, concentrating on Belfast parishes. When I can establish which parish looks promising and that their records exist, I'll pursue further. Do you know of anyone who can look up specific records held at PRONI on a paid basis,as I live in Cheshire?
    Many thanks again.
    David

    DeeSeaJay

    Saturday 16th Jul 2022, 08:26AM

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