John Thomas O'Brien, born 25 March in Tipperary, son of Patrick O'Brien, went to America in 1854. Those are the only positive facts I have about my great Grandfather's background. Recently I found a search of the 1851 census in Ireland ---
Search in census of 1851 Ireland census:
John O'Brien (or Brien)
Parents - Patrick & Elizabeth (or Betsy)
Residence in 1851:
County: Tipperary N.R.?
Barony: Ormond
Parish: Aghnameadle
Town: Toomyvara
Street: a number of names are crossed out and the finally it says Church St.
This is the closest I've come to finding a possible clue. Does anyone know of any way I could find out more about this family so I might eliminate them or - hopefully- do a happy dance all over the house because I might have found the correct family???
Moira
Tuesday 6th Sep 2022, 07:29PMMessage Board Replies
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From 1801 to 1922, there were 160 John O'Briens baptized in Tipp who were sons of Patrick O'Briens. So more info would be needed to identify your John's family.
About what year was he born?
Who was his wife? his children? his siblings?
Where did he emigrate to?
What was his occupation?
Any info you can supply would be helpful.
Patricia
Tuesday 6th Sep 2022, 11:23PM -
Thank you, Patricia for your suggestions.
As I mentioned, John Thomas O’Brien was born March 25, 1842 to Patrick and unknown O’Brien. I am aware of no siblings though some family trees have mentioned a sister Ann born in 1937 and a sister Johanna on August 15, 1936. No proof or source is given for either of the sisters in those family trees.
His father Patrick was a farmer in Niagara County, New York state after they immigrated in 1854, so I assume Patrick was a farmer in Ireland as well. John was a farmer all his life in America. I have found no immigration records. The son, John, the one I am researching, travelled to Wisconsin, likely during the Civil War, and in Fox Lake Wisconsin on November 9, 1870, he married Julia Evelyn Cruden, she being born there, her parents coming from Ireland.
Moira
Sunday 16th Oct 2022, 09:47PM -
John O’BRIEN is also my 2nd great grandfather Julia my great grandmother in fox lake , his father Patrick born march 17 1807. I have county cork married Anna (Ann ( Rigan or Russell ) he died march9th 1887 in Barker New York, I ha grave stone pictures , Also pictures of John n Julia O’Brien Family I have this information on Patrick I’m not sure if it helps you.or if you already have it.
Parents
Michael O'Brien
1777-1825
Michael O'Brien was born in 1777 in
Ireland, the son of Mary and Maurice.
He had one child with Mary Welch (O'Brien) and one other child. He died on February 6, 1825, in Clare, Ireland, at the age of 48, and was buried there.
Mary Welch
Children of Patrick and Anna
John Thomas O...
1842-1912
Cornelelius O'B...
1843-1920
Morris O'Brien
1844-
Mary O'Brien
1849-1917
Sarah O'Brien
1851-
Patsey Obrien
1857-
James O'Brien
1880-1910
John n Julias children are
Thomas Corneli...
1871-1913
Mayme O Brien
1874-1951
Amelia Agnes...
1876-1957
Teresa O Brien
1878-1947
John Obrien
1880-
Julia Obrien
1882-
Francis Tobias...
1883-1951
Pamphalous Pa...
1889-1951
William C Obrien
1892-1935William being my great grandfather
KO’Brien
Thursday 28th Sep 2023, 05:16AM -
John O’BRIEN is also my 2nd great grandfather Julia my great grandmother in fox lake , his father Patrick born march 17 1807. I have county cork married Anna (Ann ( Rigan or Russell ) he died march9th 1887 in Barker New York, I ha grave stone pictures , Also pictures of John n Julia O’Brien Family I have this information on Patrick I’m not sure if it helps you.or if you already have it.
Parents
Michael O'Brien
1777-1825
Michael O'Brien was born in 1777 in
Ireland, the son of Mary and Maurice.
He had one child with Mary Welch (O'Brien) and one other child. He died on February 6, 1825, in Clare, Ireland, at the age of 48, and was buried there.
Mary Welch
Children of Patrick and Anna
Johanna O'Brien
1836-1923
Ann O'Brien
1837-1918
John Thomas O...
1842-1912
Cornelelius O'B...
1843-1920
Morris O'Brien
1844-
Mary O'Brien
1849-1917
Sarah O'Brien
1851-
Patsey Obrien
1857-
James O'Brien
1880-1910
John n Julias children are
Thomas Corneli...
1871-1913
Mayme O Brien
1874-1951
Amelia Agnes...
1876-1957
Teresa O Brien
1878-1947
John Obrien
1880-
Julia Obrien
1882-
Francis Tobias...
1883-1951
Pamphalous Pa...
1889-1951
William C Obrien
1892-1935William being my great grandfather
KO’Brien
Thursday 28th Sep 2023, 05:31AM -
Thank you, KO, for the information you have given me. I have seen this information on the internet in different family trees, but not with any sources so I've never been sure if it was correct. Amelia Agnes O'Brien is my grandma. I have proof that John Thomas and Julia lived with John's Father, Patrick in Niagara, New York. At that time Patrick was married to Ann Rigan which would lead me to think she is John's mother, yet when Julia gave the information for John's death record she says Patrick was his father but his mother is marked as unknown. You would think if she lived with the woman for four years or so, she would have remembered Ann was her name -- unless John Thomas was the son of an earlier marriage. I've been sort of reluctant to just jump on the Patrick O'Brien and Ann Rigan boat without some proof.
If we can carry this further please write to me ay moimid@telus.net
Thanks for any help or proof or sources you can give
Moira
Saturday 30th Sep 2023, 03:42PM