Visiting Gallagh County Roscommon

The photo is of 3 of Patrick Scally's Daughters, Jane is my Great Grandmother 

I'm having difficulty finding birth records for the girls in the picture. Were they born in Ireland?

Gallagh is a 230 acre townland near the Shannon River. About 7 miles northeast of Roscommon town on the way to Lanesborough.

Roger McDonnell

Hi Roger all of Patrick Scally's Children were born in England, I'm to understand some were born in Nantwich an Crewe Cheshire, an Whitchurch Shorpshire Patrick married Mary Ryan in Nantwich Cheshire 7th May 1870, they were parents to 10 Children, 

Michael 1868 - 1868

John       1872 - 1903

Francis   1874 - 1922

Annie      1876

Honey     1876

Thomas 1876  -  1933

Margaret  1881  -  1955

Jane  1883  -  1961

Edward  1885  -  1916

Mary Ann  1887  -  1959

I'm wondering if Annie an Honey were twins, kind regards Jeffrey John Gallagher 

Can you tell us Patrick’s father’s name and occupation from his English marriage certificate? I can see 3 Scally farms in Galliagh: Thomas, John senior, John junior and 1 labourer’s cottage occupied by Peter. Need a father’s name to narrow your search.

I think that Honey & Annie may be the same person. There’s a birth for Hannah Scalley (mother’s maiden name Ryan) registered in 1876 in Whitchurch, Shropshire. Volume 6A page 756. Hannah is often shortened to Anna/Annie and Honey is obviously like Hannah. She may well have used both names. Not uncommon.  I do not see a twin or second female birth around that period.

In addition to Hannah, I see a possible birth for Thomas Scalley in Wigan, Lancs in 1879 and births in Nantwich, Cheshire, for Margaret, 1881, Jane 1883, Edward James 1885 & Mary Ann 1887. All spelled Scally.  John Scalley birth in Whitchurch 1872.

I've received information about Patrick Scally, parents Francis Scally 1820 - 1891 Eleanor Kelly,

And Mary Ryan parents Miles Ryan  1822 - 1853, Honor Kearns 1826 - 1895, 

Hope this information is useful for you, kind regards JJ Gallagher 

I searched the statutory deaths 1864 to 1901 for Francis and Eleanor (Ellen) but did not find either in Gallagh.

I can see that there is a tree on Ancestry (Kevin Eccles tree) which shows Francis Scally as born in Elphin c 1820 and dying in Cheshire in July 1891. I looked at the English death records for 1891 but did not see one that matches that information. However you could contact the tree owner and ask them for their source.

Gallagh is in the RC parish of Clontuskert.  Unfortunately they have no records earlier than 1865 so if that’s where Francis originated then there are no records to search. If he originated in Elphin then their records start in 1807. I searched for a Scally – Kelly marriage but without success. Probably they married in a parish that doesn’t have any records for the 1840s.

Hi Roger,

Thank you very much for your help it's been much appreciated. I will be visiting in June of this year to explore the areas (Gallagh & Elphin)

Our volunteer Elwyn also provided some very good info on your family.

 Not sure if we have a volunteer in the Cloontuskert/Elphin area but if you get a chance please complete the form regarding your June trip to Ireland   https://www.irelandxo.com/meet-and-greet

Thanks!

Roger

Hi Roger would it be possible for your Volunteer Elwyn to pass on more information to me, Elwyn says he's provided some good information on my family, if possible I could meet up with Volunteer when I'm in Ireland, I'm staying in Donegal town for a week 31st May - 7th June, kind regards JJ Gallagher

JJ Gallagher:

If you look further up in this message thread, you will see the comment that Elwyn provided. I have pasted his comment below.

Roger

I searched the statutory deaths 1864 to 1901 for Francis and Eleanor (Ellen) but did not find either in Gallagh. I can see that there is a tree on Ancestry (Kevin Eccles tree) which shows Francis Scally as born in Elphin c 1820 and dying in Cheshire in July 1891. I looked at the English death records for 1891 but did not see one that matches that information. However you could contact the tree owner and ask them for their source. Gallagh is in the RC parish of Clontuskert. Unfortunately they have no records earlier than 1865 so if that’s where Francis originated then there are no records to search. If he originated in Elphin then their records start in 1807. I searched for a Scally – Kelly marriage but without success. Probably they married in a parish that doesn’t have any records for the 1840s. Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

Thanks Roger just noticed it at bottom of post, thanks, kind regards JJ Gallagher 

Hi Elwyn thanks for your help very much appreciated, Thomas Scally was one of my great uncle's born 1876 - 1933 his name spelling was Scally,  kind regards JJ Gallagher