I am trying to pin down the birthday of my great grand father: Thomas Aloysius McGovern--Born in Nov., 1868. He Married Anne C. Flanagan in 1893 who was born in 1870. They had 4 to 6 kids-- Jennie, Patrick, Mary E., Anne--who married Michael James Shea, and 2 others.
I am also trying to located the specific Parish Thomas A. McGovern was from.
Any information would be most appreciated.
Sean
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Monday 8th Apr 2024, 01:25PMMessage Board Replies
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Sean,
Quite a few trees on Ancestry list Thomas McGovern and family. They show Thomas as born in Edinburgh (Scotland) c 1870. Parents Patrick McGovern and Mary Dolan who are reported to have married around 1860 in Ireland. If that's correct then the sensible thing is to find Thomas’s Scottish birth certificate as it should record where and when his parents married. Those records are on the Scotlandspeople site.
The family appears in the 1871 Scottish census at 37 Kirk St, Calton, Glasgow. Patrick 27 b Ireland, labourer, Mary 33 b Ireland, Ellen 4 born Edinburgh, Thomas 2 born Edinburgh, Patrick aged 5 hours, born Glasgow. That leads me to Thomas’s likely birth on 30th Oct 1868 in High St, Edinburgh. Father Patrick was a railway labourer. Mother Mary Levy, widow, maiden surname Collins. (Not Dolan). The parents weren’t married, and the birth is marked as illegitimate. However the father was there to confirm paternity and so his name appears on the certificate.
You ask what specific parish Thomas was from. The answer is Canongate, Edinburgh. However I realise that’s not really what you were hoping for.
I searched Scottish records 1855 to 1875 for a marriage between Patrick & Mary but did not find one. Unless they married in the US it looks as though they never married.
Mary’s husband was Michael Levy/Levie whom she married in Girvan, Ayrshire in 1859. He was the father of Ellen (Helen) born 2nd June 1866 in Edinburgh. Michael died in Edinburgh in 1866 aged 46.
If you can find Patrick McGovern’s parents from his US death certificate, you might be able to trace his origins in Ireland. Otherwise it’s going to be a bit challenging.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘
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This might be your gg-grandparents' marriage info (from RootsIreland). Perhaps Scottish records can confirm.
Good luck.
Date of Marriage: 12-Jan-1863
Parish / District: TEMPLEPORT
County: Co. Cavan
Husband Wife
Name: Patrick Magovern Mary Dolan
Address: Coracombra
Denomination: Roman Catholic Roman Catholic
Witness 1 Witness 2
Name: Francis Magovern Ellen Dolan
Address:
Notes:
Patricia