After about 40 years of searching for information on a family (Barber) from apparently Monaghan Co., I am getting somewhat frustrated. Nathaniel Barber 1 Jan 1782 (DOB) had two brothers not sure if any others but at least two I have heard about - William & Francis) Nathaniel married Elizabeth Williams (1786 born in Ballymena) but unfortunately some of this information is the closest I have been since I started, yet I do not have the source material for the dates yet. I would love to find out more about this ancestor as he is my 3rd great grandfather (paternal), and I have a fair amount of documentation on the family as they came to Canada about 1832+/-.
pbarber
Sunday 8th Dec 2024, 08:45PMMessage Board Replies
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In the Tithe Applotments, there were five heads of household named Barber. One was Nathaniel, who lived in the townland of Drumhillagh in 1825..
BarberJaneDrumkeenAghabogMonaghan1833
BarberJohnDerrylossetEmatrisMonaghan1830
BarberJamesDrumhillaghKilleevanMonaghan1825
BarberNathalDrumhillaghKilleevanMonaghan1825
BarberRobtSkerrymoreMucknoMonaghan1827
Patricia
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Patricia thank you ever so much for that information. I am fairly positive that the Nathaniel in the Tithe Allotment is the Nathaniel I am looking for and I am hoping that this will lead me to more information in the Townland of Drumhillagh, Parish of Killeavan. There were apparently two brothers, of which one I am guessing could be James, but the other assurredly was called Francis, and he at that time is not on the list. Now to see if I can find out Nathaniels parents names, and when he married Elizabeth Williams. I am rather anxious to find out more about this line as it was my direct paternal line, also I have had word that the Barber's were once called the Barbier's, and were part of the Huegenot movement from France. I know there is a lot of anymousity towards this movement in France and to some extent through the UK, however I am hoping people accept it for what it is; part of History, and we cannot change our History. Well thanks again for this find, and may you have a very Merry Christmas.
Paul Barber
pbarber
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Found on rootsireland.ie. Note Nathaniel, Francis, and Margaret Barber are mentioned.
1794-1831 Newspaper Reports Monaghan AssizesBarberNathaniel1821Co. Monaghan
Notes :Jun
Assizes :Summer
Sex :m
Status :witness
Location :Aghabog
Crime :assault
Abstract :Daniel Kieran, Philip Kieran, and Owen McCarvill, indicted for an assault in the house of a person of the name of Barber, in the parish of Aghabog. Not Guilty.
Notes :Witnesses included Nathaniel Barber, jun., John Hamilton. Mentioned are Margaret Barber, sister of Nathaniel, Francis Barber, and Widow Greacen.
Newspaper :Belfast Commercial Chronicle, 19 September 1821
Patricia
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Paul,
Regarding the origins of the name Barber, MacLysaght (The Surnames of Ireland) says: “Barbour, Barber ie le Barbier. In Dublin since the thirteenth century; now mainly in Ulster.”
if your ancestors arrived in 1200s then that was long before the Huguenots arrival. The trigger for the their departure from France was the revocation of the Edict of Nantes in 1685 by Louis XIV. About 50,000 fled to England (seen as a safe haven as it was also Protestant) and about 10,000 settled in Ireland, mostly in counties with a significant Protestant presence, for the same reason. Wikipedia says: “About 10,000 Huguenots are thought to have come to Ireland, mostly settling around Dublin, Cork, Portarlington and in Co Antrim and Co Down.”
What denomination were your Barbers as that might help clarify their origins? Obviously the Huguenots fled religious persecution in France so are very unlikely to have been Catholic in Ireland. They did set up a Huguenot church in Dublin but most gradually switched to Presbyterianism (it’s Calvinistic philosophy being fairly close to their own beliefs). Some became Church of Ireland (ie Episcopalian).
Looking at the 1901 census of Monaghan, I see 33 folk named Barbour/Barber. 7 were Catholic, 13 were Presbyterian and the remainder Church of Ireland. So the majority seem to have been settlers here at sometime in the past. Those Presbyterians could be descendants of Huguenot refugees, or they may just have come from Scotland which is where most Irish Presbyterians have their roots.
Elwyn, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘