My GGgrandparents were William John McKinstry and Elizabeth Marguerite Loder/Lawther. They had at least one son, John Howard McKinstry. On his marriage record he said that he was born in Lurgan, Armaugh, Ireland Dec 22, 1855. The family story of his emgration from Ireland to the US is that he Came to U.S. from Ireland when 6 yrs of age in the company of an Uncle and Half-sister after the death of his mother Elizabeth Marguerite (Loder) McKinstry. He may have come in through Canada. John Howard married Delia Marie Kelter, whose grandparents were Irish immigrants. They had 8 children, most born in Iowa and Nebraska.
Any help in finding William and Elizabeth in Ireland would be greatly appreciated. My one McKinstry male cousin has posted his DNA on the FamilyTree DNA project. So far, we have not had any connections from this, however.
Tuesday 21st Aug 2012, 08:55PM
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Hi Joleen,
The correct parish for Lurgan in Shankill. You could join the parish page and try posting information that you have regarding your ancestors on the parish message board. Remember to include as much information as you can. The more information you post, the more likely it is that someone will recognise your information and can make some connection for you.
You could also try checking the land records called the Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38) or the later Griffith's Valuation (1848-64). The Tithe Applotment Books (1823-38): Microfilm copies of the books for all of Ireland are available at the National Archives of Ireland (NAI) http://www.nationalarchives.ie/genealogy1/genealogy-records/tithe-applotment-books-and-the-primary-griffith-valuation/ or the Church of Latter Day Saints (LDS). Griffith's is freely available here: www.askaboutireland.com or here: www.failteromhat.com Failte Romhat has lots of other useful links you could try looking at. The Tithe Applotment List might be of use to you, or at least interesting for you. These lists constitute the only nationwide survey for the period, and are valuable because the heaviest burden of the tithes to the Established Church, the Church of Ireland, fell on the poorest, for whom few other records survive. The information in the Tithes is quite basic, typically consisting of townland name, landholder's name, area of land and tithes payable. Many Books also record the landlord's name and an assessment of the economic productivity of the land. The tax payable was based on the average price of wheat and oats over the seven years up to 1823, and was levied at a different rate depending on the quality of land. For Parishes where the registers do not begin until after 1850, this information can be useful, as they are often the only surviving early records. They can provide valuable circumstantial evidence, especially where a holding passed from father to son in the period between the Tithe survey and Griffith's Valuation.
Church records may also be of some use to you. Church of Ireland parish registers for the period up to 1870 are public records. Registers are available for about one third of the parishes, however many were destroyed in the Public Records Office in Dublin in 1922. Most are still held by the local clergy, although some are in the National Archives of Ireland and others are in the Representative Church Body Library in Dublin. A list of all surviving registers is available in the National Archives. http://ireland.anglican.org/about/42 and http://www.nationalarchives.ie/. Presbyterian registers are held in three main locations: in local custody, in the Public Records of Northern Ireland (PRONI) http://www.proni.gov.uk/ and at the Presbyterian Historical Society in Belfast. PRONI has microfilm copies of almost all registers in Northern Ireland and also lists of records held by the Presbyterian Historical Society. For the rest of Ireland, almost all records are in local custody. It can difficult to locate these as many congregations in the South have moved, amalgamated, or simply disappeared over the last sixty years. Some Catholic parish registers are located in the National Library of Ireland. You can check some of these here: http://www.nli.ie/en/parish-register.aspx .
I wish you the best of luck with your search.
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Thank you for your advice. I have found some McKinstrys on Griffith's but know if they are the right ones. I will keep looking.
Joleen