Bannon and Corcoran Families

Dave:

Welcome to Ireland Reaching Out!

The townland was Toora in Shinrone civil parish. Below are the 1901 and 1911 census records for the family 

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/King_s_Co_/Cangort/Toora/1…

http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/King_s_Co_/Canfort/Toora/5…

James died in 1912 and Kate died in 1919

First name(s)JamesLast nameBannonAge at death77Birth year1835Registered year1912Registered quarter/yearApr - Jun 1912Registration districtRoscreaVolume3Page382CountyLaois (Queen's), Offaly (King's), Tipperary

First name(s)KateLast nameBannenAge at death83Birth year1836Registered year1919Registered quarter/yearOct - Dec 1919Registration districtRoscreaVolume3Page363CountyLaois (Queen's), Offaly (King's), Tipperary

I also have copied the Roots Ireland transcriptions of the baptismal records which you likely already have. 

Roger mcDonnell

Name:Mary BannonDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:05-Apr-1869Address:TouraghParish/District:SHINRONEGender:FemaleCountyCo. Offaly
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:James BannonMother:Catherine BannonOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Timothy CorcoranSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Eliza Bannon

Name:Honora BannonDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:10-Jul-1870Address:TouraghParish/District:SHINRONEGender:FemaleCountyCo. Offaly
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:James BannonMother:Catherine CorcoranOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Daniel BannonSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary Egan

Name:Catherine BannonDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:07-May-1872Address:CangortParish/District:SHINRONEGender:FemaleCountyCo. Offaly
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:James BannonMother:Catherine CorcoranOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:Dan LewisSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Mary Lewis

Name:Eliza BananDate of Birth:
Date of Baptism:22-Oct-1875Address:"n/r"Parish/District:SHINRONEGender:FemaleCountyCo. Offaly
Denomination:Roman Catholic
Father:James BananMother:Catherine CorcoranOccupation:
Sponsor 1 /
Informant 1:John EganSponsor 2 /
Informant 2:Anne Corcoran

Thank you Roger!  Yours was a very useful post.   The Bannon's two eldest daughter (Mary and Catherine/Kate) arrived on Ellis Island on 20 April 1895 aboard the Etruria from Queensport.  Probably never returning to Ireland nor to see their parents and two younger sisters again.

Armed with the info you provided, I can try to drill-down to find more specifics such as churches, grave sites, etc to visit when my family and I travel to Ireland. 

Dave Carrroll​, Cape May, NJ

Dave:

The two Bannon sisters left from Queenstown (now Cobh). Are you headed to Ireland this year? We like to keep track of visitors. Also, I live north of Baltimore.

Roger

Hi Roger!  Yes, Queenstown, the last port of call for the Titanic!  We are not visiting this summer, perhaps next.

Dave

Hi Jane!  We are first cousins once removed.  I recently visited the grave site of your mother with my family.  As you know, she rests with her father and mother in Holy Cross, North Arlington.  I am extremely interested in communicating with you.  I have a rather extensive family tree.  I traced David's father William back to Canada and his father Thomas to Ireland.  I also have discovered the Bannon and Corcoran ancestors. In addition, I have immigration information on Mary and youngest sister Catherine.  Due to the sensitive cirumstances of our families, would you please contact me at dcar585672@aol.com. 

Dave Carroll

Dave,   According to church records, Mary Bannon's mother was indeed Catherine Corcoran, but she was the daughter of a Patt Corcoran.  There had been a Tim Corcoran who had about 12 children, one of which was Catherine, but she doesn't seem to have been the one who married James Bannon and was the mother of Mary, and her sisters.  I haven't found out yet who Patt's parents were.  Patt and his wife, Jane, had another daughter, Mary, and a son Thomas.    If you ever go to that area you can check it out at the church in Shinrone.

Hi Jane!  I hope you and your family are well.  I think that Patt and Jane could be Catherine's parents.  However, I favor Tim and Ann.  Here's why, but first a brief background.        

In Shinrone circa. 1838 to 1841, I have noted two sets of married Corcoran's- Patt Corcoran and Jane Englbie.  Also married are Tim Corcoran and Ann Shanahan.  They are probably related but I do not know.      So the question is who are Catherine's parents .... Patt and Jane or Tim and Ann, maybe someelse??     I think both sets had daughters and gave the name Catherine.                                                                               

My review of the availabe records leads me to favor Tim and Ann.  The main reason for that conclusion is that I saw an abstract of the marriage record of James Bannon and Catherine Corcoran.  The father of Catherine is recorded as Tim. (source:  rootsireland.ie).  Also, the 1911 census places Catherine's birth year in 1838.

I did see the baptism record of a Catherine Corcoran to Patt Corcoran and Jane Englbie on the 29 Aug 1847 in Shinrone.  1847 is too old of our Catherine!   I have not uncovered a birth/baptism record of Catherine to Tim Corcoran and Ann Shanahan.  Tim and Ann baptized son Tim in 1843.

So I have to lean toward Tim and Ann given that Tim is recorded as the father of Catherine (in the abstracted record) for James Bannon marriage to Catherine on 30 Nov 1867 in Shinrone.  Also, our Catherine was born circa 1838 making the Catherine from Patt and Jane too young having been born in 1847.

Dave                                                                            

If I ever go to Shinrone again, I will recheck the church records to see if I am mistaken.  

I am traveling to Shinrone and Westmeath County on 29 August 2019.  I will post here if I find something of value beyond what I already discussed.