Quinn/Quigley Research

Marie:

You may have two different families in the mix. There are three Annaghmore townlands in Co. Offaly and none are near Shinrone.

Annaghmore Killoughy civil parish

Annaghmore Tisaran civil parish 

Annaghmore Drumcullen civil parish

This may explain the 1868 vs. 1876 and the Mary Anne vs. Mary J.

Also, Shinrone RC records start in 1842 so if Mary Quigley was from that parish, you won't find her baptismal record.

Sorry, I can't provide any more constructive information. I did locate the 1868 civil birth index record for Mary Anne (below) but did not find a record for a Mary J. around 1876 in either the Roscrea or Parsonstown registration districts. Let me know what questions you have.

Roger McDonnell

I appreciate your taking the time to respond Roger.  That is my dilemma.  The Annaghmore is supposedly from where Mary J lived when she left Ireland to come to America, not necessarily where she was born.  But leaving the County blank in my search, I still didn't find other John Quinn/Mary Quigley combos with daughter's Mary to research furth in the right time frame. 

Marie:

Later this summer the National Library of Ireland plans to put all RC parish registers online for free searching. Roots Ireland does not have all the parish data available in the NLI. It will be tedious but you could search through the possible parishes in Offaly and see if you can find more info.

All the best!

Roger

Thanks, Roger!

It's been a long time since I have addressed this issue on this board.  I did go back and research steps taken by a family member and realized that I had no real proof of three things.  One is that my great grandmother's middle initial was J.  My grandmother's is, her name is Mary Josephine.  Another is my greatgrandmother, Mary Quinn's date of birth.  My great grandfather's citizenship papers said it was April 1879, but he was born in 1876 and I am wondering if they were embarrassed that she was older than he.  The only Mary Quinn I or anyone else has found is the Mary Anne Quinn born in 1868.  As I look through the US census data, her age is all over the place admitting to her being 5 years older than him in one of them.  And the third is Annaghmore.  When I went back over some ship manifests, it seems that in the late 1800's, they weren't very good at attaching the original location in many of them.  So I think what may have happened is that my cousin found one where it did indicate that the Mary Quinn in that manifest came from Annaghmore, King's County and she took it on as my Mary Quinn.  So I have come to think/see that my Quinn family is the one in Derrinclare, Shinrone Parish, Offaly.  I assume it is on the border of Tipperary because all records appear twice, once in Offaly and once in Tipperary.

I found a death record for my 2X great grandfather John Quinn in 1892 at 75 yo, and it said he died of senile debility and that he was a married farmer, but I never found a death certificate for Mary Quinn (nee Quigley).  I checked the 1901 Census and found a John Quigley, his wife Elizabeth, and children Catherine and John.  I didn't find a Quinn, but turns out there was James Quinn nearby in Cangort Park in 1901 and in Derrinclare in the 1911 census.  I know in my Donegal family, relatives of mine still live in the house my grandfather was born in in 1901 and in my Cork family, my great Aunt lived in the place the family lived in the 1911 census until her death in the early 1980's so I am wondering if there might still be Quigley's and Quinn's in the area I might be related to.

Thanks for all the help,

Marie

Thanks again to Roger. My story has a happy ending, though there are still some mysteries attached.  In 2019 I made a trip to Europe and when I was in Portugal I got an email from a woman who had seen my old posts re my great grandmother and thought perhaps that we were related.  I replied that I was traveling and that I would contact her when I got home.  I had already planned to visit Roscrea as part of my trip to see if I could find out anything about my Offally ancestors.  A couple of weeks later, I ended up in Roscrea at Sli Dala B&B.  I had shared my story with the owner there and I must say she was completely amazing.  I arrived on Father's Day on the bus from Dublin and she took me to the Gol Club to get some dinner and then after dinner she said she would take me to see the home land of my Quinn's and Quigleys.  At this point, the Quinn homeland was part of a neighbors farm and he was quite helpful to us.  The Quigley property was a partially renovated thatched cottage with some stalls behind it.  It was amazing to be able to see that.  When we returned to the B&B I had mentioned about the email I had received when I was in Lisbon and Marie asked me where she lived and I pulled up the email and it was Cangort Park.  I had not made the connection on how close it was to where I would be.  Marie invited her (and her parents and one of her 2 sons) to come over to the B&B to meet.  In the process of discussing what I knew of my Shinrone family and what her mother knew of those who had left, the mother mentioned that they had been visited by her aunt and the aunt's son who was a priest and mentioned his name.  And that was when I finally knew that this was my family.  They are the descendants of what appears to be the one sibling of my great grandmother who stayed in Ireland and it was indeed James of Cangort Park.  

There is still plenty more to find out about this and my other families, but I am so thrilled to have been able to see where my great grandmother grew up and meet some of my Quinn/Quigley relations.

All the best

Marie

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Marie:

Great story! Thanks for sharing! All the best!

Roger

Thanks, Roger!