Place of migration
Migrated to/Born in Australia

Charles McDermott is my great grandfather, and he was born around 1840 in the townland of Drumerkeane, County Leitrim, on the edge of Carrigallen town.  He identified as being from Carrigallen. On the birth certificate of his daughter my grandmother, Annie Bernadine McDermott, in Queensland, Australia, in 1886, he gives his birthplace as Carrigallen, Leitrim, Ireland. 

His parents were Patrick McDermott and Annie O’Rourke, who were farmers in Drumerkeane. 

In the Griffiths Valuation for Leitrim of 1857 a Patrick McDermott is listed as leasing 31 acres of land in Drumerkeane.  There were two houses on this land one in which Patrick and his family resided and one which he rented to John Rosemond.  This could well be where Charles was born and raised. 

Charles had at least four siblings and may have had six. Patrick who became a priest and went to Manchester, Isabella and Catherine who followed Charles to Australia, and another sister, possibly named Mary, who went to New Zealand and married and was known to my grandmother as Mrs Armstrong. My grandmother also indicated that her father had two other brothers, John who also went to New Zealand and Denis who went to America. I haven’t been able to independently confirm the existence of John and Denis. 

 A Charles McDermott aged 22 arrived in March 1859 aboard the ‘Abner Stetson’ which had sailed from Liverpool. Charles’ occupation on the passenger list is labourer and his nationality as Irish. While there is a discrepancy between the year of birth based on his age on Abner Stetson passenger list i.e., 1837 and that based on the birth registration details of two of his daughters which indicates it was around 1840, it is close enough to suggest it is likely to be the same person. The details such as age included in the passenger lists of the ships were probably hurriedly taken down and prone to error. 

Upon arriving in Australia Charles initially tried his hand at gold mining in both Victoria and New Zealand, it was gold that probably drew him to migrating to Australia. However, by the early 1880’s Charles was working for a fellow Leitrim man who may have been a relative, Michael McDermott. He worked for Michael on the construction of railway lines in Victoria and Queensland. 

In December 1882 he married Annie Walsh, in Beechworth a gold mining town in North East Victoria, Australia. Annie had been born and raised in a Stanley a small village just outside of Beechworth. There was major railway construction occurring around Beechworth at this time and this is likely to be the reason Charles came to the area. 

Charles was 42 at the time of his marriage and Annie was 27. Charles and Annie had four daughters Ellen born 1883, Mary (May) born 1885, Annie born 1886, and Margaret. Margaret died a few months after she was born in Ocotober188. Her mother Annie died a few days after Margaret's birth from complications arising from the birth. Only two of the daughters Annie and Mary (May) lived into adulthood and only Annie had children. Annie was brought up by her maternal grandmother Bridget Walsh, while May was brought up by Charles’ sister Isabella, who had married Patrick Kelly in Melbourne, Australia in 1884  and was 28 at the time of her marriage.   

My grandmother made no mention of her father being involved in her upbring. It is not clear what became of Charles after the death of his wife in 1887. My grandmother believed he died around 1894 but I haven’t been able to confirm this. 

Additional Information
Date of Birth 1st Jan 1840 (circa)
Date of Death 1st Jan 1894 (circa)
Father (First Name/s and Surname) Patrick McDermott
Mother (First Name/s and Maiden) Ann O'Rourke
Townland born Drumerkeane, Leitrim
Spouse (First Name/s and Maiden/Surname) Annie Walsh
Number of Siblings 5-6
Names of Siblings Patrick, Isabella, and Catherine, Mary, John, Denis
Occupation Railway contractor overseer
Spouse (First Name/s and Maiden/Surname) Annie Walsh
Place & Date of Marriage 28 December 1882 Beechworth a gold mining town in North East Victoria, Australia
Names of Children Ellen born 1883, Mary (May) born 1885, Annie born 1886, and Margaret 1887
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  • Hi my name is Louise. Not sure if this is the best way to make contact. I am willing to exchange information.

    Michael McDermott (1826-1903) was my great grandfather, his parents were Peter and Mary McDermott. Michael was a railway contractor in Victoria and Queensland. He built the Dickabram Bridge near Maryborough, Queensland in 1886.

    I have only recently come across a Carrigallen connection. Michael’s younger brother, James also migrated to Australia. On his 1855 migration record he gave his place of birth as Carrigallen. James stated his parents’ names were Peter and Mary McDermott. The migration record shows James McDermott migrated with his cousin Patrick McDermott also from Carrigallen. Patrick McDermott said his parents’ names were Patrick and Anne McDermott.
     

    Our stories basically match up. My family tree is on Ancestry. Today I noticed other Ancestry trees have Charles dying in 1894 in WA. I was not able to find Charles’ 1882 marriage record in Victoria BDM online. Hope to hear from you sometime.

    louiseol

    Saturday 22nd April 2023 07:25AM
  • Hi Louise 

    Good to hear from you. My grandmother Annie Kelly (nee McDermott) was born in Maryborough Queensland in 1886 and her birth registration details reveal that her parents usual place of residence was Dickabram  and that Charles my great grandfather was working as a railway contractor. So he would have worked for  your grandfather Michael McDermott. 

    My great grandmother Annie McDermott ( nee Walsh) died giving birth to their daughter Margaret in Kilmore in 1887 At the time McDermott and Sons were building a branch railway line in the area and Charles lists his occupation as railway overseer so I think we can assume he was still working for Micheal. 

    I am interested in the information you have on Patrick McDermott which states that he migrated to Australia in 1855 with his cousin James McDermott and that Patrick's parents were Patrick and Anne McDermott.  Also the fact that James and Patrick are cousins and James lists Carrigallen as his birthplace strongly suggests a possible link between our two families. 

    The only difficulty with that scenario is that I know Patrick became a priest and went to Manchester England. Possibly he didn't stay in Australia but went home to Ireland where he became a priest. 

    You may be aware that James McDermott was one of the witnesses at the marriage of Michael McDermott and Rose Small in Geelong, Victoria in 1855.

    I am not sure why Charles marriage doesn't show up in the Victorian BDM, like you I have not been able to find it. However in the birth registration of each of his children he gives his marriage location and date as Beechworth, 28 December 1882. Possibly the priest who married them failed to complete the registration form.

     

    ptreg

    Tuesday 25th April 2023 03:41AM
  • Hi ptreg,

    Thank you so much for your quick reply. I think I have worked out who you are from the information you provided. Are you a child of Nancye Burn Kelly? 

    Michael McDermott, based in Geelong, together with wife and 2 sons, the older son Thomas was already married with a small son, ‘packed up their traps’ and moved to QLD to build the Kilkivan branch line that included a now Heritage listed bridge across the Mary River. I have original family photos, one is the bridge during construction in 1885. There are many photos of the Dickabram Bridge now used as a road only bridge, online. The family were away at least 3 years, during which time 3 more children were born to Thomas and his wife in Maryborough. I too used grandchildren’s birth records to trace Michael’s movements during these times. Later, on the way back to Victoria a granddaughter was born in Kilmore in 1890 whilst Michael was constructing the Kilmore-Heathcote branch line with 2 wooden trestle bridges still standing, at Pyalong, Vic.

    I could not find anything about Patrick McDermott on Ancestry other than his passenger listing in NSW, Aust. Assisted Immigrant Passenger Lists, ship Golden Era, arrived Sydney, 25 Jun 1855. Noting what you knew about him, I was somewhat surprised but thought it not impossible that he returned to the UK to enter the priesthood. I could not find his death in any Manchester records either.

    I purchased Michael McDermott’s marriage record to Mary Small many yeas ago but it wasn’t until after I had a DNA test in 2016 that I realised I had many Australian McDermott matches with family trees pointing to either a Thomas McDermott or a James McDermott, as it turned out, Michael’s 2 brothers who had also migrated. So now I knew who James was, listed on the marriage certificate. I don’t think my family ever knew that Michael had brothers.

    James McDermott had 12 children and on one birth certificate he happened to list ‘Carrigallen, Leitrim’ as his place of birth. So this information nicely backs up the shipping record. His 2 brothers only ever recorded their birth location as Leitrim, Ireland.

    In recent weeks I have been looking at many Townlands in the Civil Parish of Carrigallen to try to find McDermott links. I use townlands.ie and this website’s link to the Griffith’s Valuation. I also have identified 2 DNA matches in NZ. Their ancestor is Mary Ann McDermott who married Robert Armstrong. 

    I haven’t found Charles McDermott listed in any online BDM’s. There are Ancestry trees that suggest he died in WA but the Charles I found who died in the 1890’s was only in his 20’s.

    My McDermott research is not straight forward. Mary McDermott, the mother of Michael, Thomas and James, was born a McDermott. Until I know more I am assuming Mary’s roots are in Carrigallen, east Leitrim and the Co Cavan areas and my 2x great grandfather, Peter was from the west Leitrim, Roscommon border. Griffith’s Valuation lists Peter McDermott living in Leitrim Village, Kiltoghert Civil Parish, Leitrim. This is where I thought my McDermott ancestors came from until recently. They may have lived in the Carrigallen area but then moved to Leitrim Village. I am unsure of the scenario. Unfortunately I don’t know the exact locality where Michael and Thomas were born. 

    My email is louiseol@optusnet.com.au, if you wish to contact me regarding bridge photos and the shipping record.

    Cheers, Louise Olszanski. Lennon-McDermott DNA Tree on Ancestry.
     


     

     

    louiseol

    Tuesday 25th April 2023 06:23AM
  • I hope you received the above reply which is rather long. I had an error when I posted it.

    louiseol

    Tuesday 25th April 2023 06:27AM
  • I have been unable to post the comment. I will try again.

    louiseol

    Tuesday 25th April 2023 12:49PM

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