Anne and Ellen Nestor/Nester migrate to Australia

There is a Bridet Nestor in Clara Co Offaly (Kings County) in the 1911 census - she is a farmer and single age 46.- 

In 1911 census there is a Michael and Annie Nestor with 9 children 

Thanks carricktown. I had seen these but cannot connect to my Nestor who came to Australia as I have no information about other siblings or descendants, apart from Australian ones.

Jenni

Hello

Jenni

Was just looking up something and see there are still lots of Nestors living in the Clara area in Co Offaly - maybe if you were to contact Offaly Historical Society or to the Parish Church in Clara Co Offaly, someone might be able to help you

Also I guess you have seen this below

From: "Doreen Dunlop" <dunlopdm@melbpc.org.au> 
Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Nestors in Sth Australia 
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 03:13:24 +1000 
References: <mailman.33.1271142007.11125.irl-clare@rootsweb.com><000701cadafe$e11664d0$a3432e70$@com.au><3B8BCEBDA9FE4492844BE15481B0F0F1@MargaretPC>

Hello, If you don't already have this information I hope the following is 
of some help.

>From the NSW Registry for Births Deaths and Marriages Online - Free search 
(Google) I found the following marriages:

Reg.No. 1684/1860 Groom: FERGUSON, John Malcolm, Bride: NESTON (sic) 
Catherine Mary District: Gouburn.

Reg.No. 2270/1868 Groom: JUBB, George H., Bride: NESTOR: Mary Ann. 
District: Goulburn

You could have option of buying certificates or using Transcription agents 
in N.S.W.

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>From NSW Immigration Online - Free search (Google) I found the following 
arrivals:

Assisted Immigrants arriving in Sydney, Newcastle, Moreton bay and Port 
Phillip 1839 - 1896

NESTOR Catherine Age 21 Ship: TALAVERA Year 1853 Arriving: 
Newcastle and/or Sydney
Remarks - Copy Reel 2137, [4/4791]; Reel 2465, [4/4935]
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Results show two others: Catherine aged 16, on MARIA in 1850 same 
destination; with sister.
Catherine aged 9, on CANTON in 1848 
same destination; with family.
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NESTOR Mary Ann Age 15 Ship: QUEEN OF THE EAST Year 1864 
Arriving: Sydney
Remarks - Copy Reel 2139, [4/4798]; Reel 2482,[4/4987]
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Results show another Mary Age 20 Ship: CORNWALL Year 1850 Arriving: Sydney 
and/or Newcastle Remarks -

Also two other Mary NESTOR Aged 28, on KATE in 1856 same destination, 
Remarks: with family
Mary NESTOR Aged 22, on DAVID McIVER in 1852, same 
destination, Remarks: and sister.
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As no dates were given in post can only guess that the first named in the 
Assisted Immigrants may be your people.

Hope this helps.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Margaret Garthwaite" <megarthwaite@sky.com>
To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com>
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [IRL-CLARE] Nestors in Sth Australia

> The two who emigrated to Australia were the girls, Catherine Mary, and 
> Mary
> Ann NESTOR.
>
> Catherine married John Malcolm FERGUSON and Mary Ann married George Hiles
> JUBB, I don't have dates for this.
>
> They seem to have lived in and around the Sydney area - Canterbury,
> Parramatta, finally living in Burwood and Ashfield, which I believe are
> suburbs of Sydney.
>
> I'm not very hot on Australian geography!
>
> It doesn't sound as if there was any connection with yours.
>
> I have often wondered what inspired them to set off separately, ten years
> apart. Mary Ann was only 15 and was going to Catherine of course, but did
> Catherine know anyone in Australia, travel with family or friends?
>
> I just don't know.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Maureen Doyle" <maurang@tpg.com.au>
> To: <irl-clare@rootsweb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2010 12:45 PM
> Subject: [IRL-CLARE] Nestors in Sth Australia
>
>
>
>>>Where did your Nestors settle in Australia? My ancestors Matthias O'Grady
>>>&
>> Mary McNamara, also from Co Clare, were in Macclesfield in South 
>> Australia
>> in the Adelaide Hills. There was a well known family of Nestors there. 
>> The
>> parents were Thomas Nestor b c 1792 Co Clare and died 2 Oct 1890 in
>> Macclesfield; his wife was Margaret Mary Quinn. The records I have from
>> local histories and Catholic baptisms at Mt Barker give the following
>> information: Parents married before 1838 at Carraun Co Cla; first three
>> children Thomas D. b c1838, Jane b c 1842, John b c 1843 all in Co Cla;
>> then
>> Catherine b1849, Eliza b1851 and Honora 1852 all born in Macclesfield and
>> baptised in Mt Barker Catholic Mission. Many of the Irish families in
>> Maccy
>> were from Co Clare. A family of Walshes lived in a small settlement with
>> my
>> ancestors and other families at Tory Banks, near Macclesfield.
>> Maureen maurang@tpg.com.au
>> .
>>>

Clare.irish-roots.net/centre

Discover the History of
Your Family in County Clare

Might be of some here here at this site if you have not seen it already

Geraldine

Clare.irish-roots.net/centre

Discover the History of
Your Family in County Clare

Might be of some here here at this site if you have not seen it already

Geraldine

Dear Carricktown

Thanks so much for your suggestions and many apologies for the delayed acknowledgement. Had lost my password. 

Can you tell me whether Clara is pronouned similarly to Clare? In Australia they would sound rather different. Clare would rhyme with where, while Clara would rhyme with O'Mara. I am wondering whether my family have been confused about Anne Nestor coming from Co. Clare. And had wondered about Clara, Co. Offaly. Another thought was that the family was living in Co. Clare  (or Co. Antrim where her sister Ellen was supposed to have been born) and the two sisters were working, say in domestic service in Co. Offaly.

Again many thanks on my behalf.

Jenni

No problem - just glad to be able to help

Yes they sound completly different.  Clar - a (co offaly)

Clare ( or the girls name Claire) would rhyme with where.

It might be worth dropping a mail to the historical societies in each county and asking about servant registry (if there was such a thing)

Did I mention there was assisted passage from Kings County on quite a large scale during this time - organised by a priest Fr Patrick Dunne.

See if you can open the attached file

Geraldine

Carsick town/ Geraldine

yes, you mentioned him before. I looked into him and found that the ship he organised went to Queensland, a long way from South Australia where Anne and Ellen Nestor arrived. They also arrived before his ship in 1862, Anne in 1854 and Ellen in 1859

interesting though

Jenni

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Dear Jenni

The very same Ellen Nestor was my great grandmother!   I have her DoB as 1844, but your date of 1841 confirms other information we have that indicates 1841. So, I have just changed the date.  Here are the notes from our Family Tree Maker program:

Ellen Nestor is believed to have come to Australia with her Uncle, Patrick Nestor, who lived at Macclesfield - probably on Nestor Rd, where my sister, Ellen, and her husband, Rod Fisher's used to live.   Also in the group of immigrant’s was Jane, daughter of Patrick and cousin of Ellen.   Ellen later went to live with her sister, Anne, who married Christian Theel of Gumeracha on 29/1/1858. (we have her name spelled Ann and Anne. Do you know which is correct?)

Patrick was born, according to a note in Ellen Fisher's records, in about 1780s.   Ellen F thinks Patrick more likely born about 1800 and Jane later than 1815, because she thought her mother, Bessie had said Jane and cousin Ellen were of similar age, and great friends.

However, Anne Nestor's marriage certificate lists her father as Patrick, so that clouds her relationship with cousin Jane, said to also be daughter of Patrick????  We have Ann and Ellen’s father as James Patrick!

Ellen’s Death Certificate says she was 87 when she died - which would make her DoB 1841, not 1844.   Marriage age is listed there as 21, which confirms 1841 as birth year as her marriage was 1862.  When she died, she had 5 living sons and 2 living daughters.  3 boys and 3 girls had pre deceased her - total 13.   There are 14 listed on Noel Talbot's family tree - but there are two boys who died at about 1 yr old with the same name

Ellen Nestor came to Australia later than Ann as Anne had become very homesick and she was to keep her company.  Arrived in Glenelg in 1858 and she was 17 yrs old.  Anne was already married and Ellen went to Gumeracha to live with Anne and Christian.   Ellen's marriage to Theophilus Otto Talbot took place on 20/5/1862 at St Mary's Church Main South Road ( near Daws Rd) St. Marys (Adelaide suburb).  Canon Dove officiated. This is an Anglican Church.

A (previous) marriage between Theophilus Talbot and Bridget O'Dea took place 2 yrs earlier at St Mary's Roman Catholic Church on the corner of Main South Road and Bains Road, Morphett Vale. She died of typhoid 17 days later.

Ellen and Theophilus had had 14 children, the 5th of whom was Ellen Amelia.  Ellen Amelia was, born 11th Feb, 1869, died 29 Oct 1952.  She married Robert James PENNY at Mt Gambier SA on 2 Jan 1896. They had 3 children, Harold George, Robert John and Elizabeth Ellen (Bessie), my mother.

My notes on James Patrick are as follows:

The Nestors were from Ballymena, Northern Ireland.  The family lived on an estate.  The father was the butcher and the mother helped to look after the children.  Their employer was Lord Tullamore (or Tulliver).

My sister Ellen says “this confusing repetitive use of names can be attributed to the fact that families at that time appear to have used the same names over and over.  The documents we have bear this out.  Presumably his brother Patrick "wheelbarrow" Nestor lived in Nestor Rd Macclesfield.  The Patrick and Jane Nestor that you have dates for are probably relatives from the previous generation.  The cousin Jane was about the same age as Ellen)

I have further information from a book, "Macclesfied - Reflections along the Angas" that I can send if you are interested.

Lizi

We are third cousins once removed I think!  I am thrilled to hear what you have written. Some I had known, some I had not. I had your mother Elizabeth Ellen in my tree for example. I had not known that Ellen went to Gumeracha because Ann was homesick. But what you have shared gives more scope for research than what I knew, as far as tracing the Nestors back to ireland.

I have a picture of Ellen and her daughters and one of Ann Nestor and Christian Theel. Spelling Ann or Anne, Nestor or Nester doesn't matter since both the sisters were illiterate (made their mark at marriage, not signed). I also have a copy of a letter written by Theophillus Talbot to Christian and Ann in 1864. Happy to share these with you.

I live in Perth, Western Australia (where are you?) and last week returned from a trip to UK and Ireland. I grew up in Victoria but my mother was born and grew up in South Australia. She was the great grand daughter of Ann Nestor.

It would be good to make email contact. Because this is a public webpage I will code my email address so robots cannot flood me with spam. Please remove the spaces and turn the (at) into a @.

jenniib (at) iinet.net.au

Looking forward to hearing from you soon

Jenni Ibrahim