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I have hopes of visiting Ireland this summer or this fall for “The Gathering” & I would like to find out information about where my G-G-Grandfather came from. 

His name was Kieran Burke (or Kearnan in some U.S. census records). I'm sure he was Catholic & almost certainly a poor farmer or laborer. He emigrated to Cincinnati, Ohio, U.S.A. in 1850, and lived in that area until his death in 1911.  His death certificate lists his age as 93, so this would make his date of birth about 1818.

 

All U.S. records show that he lived in County Offaly.  I believe it may have been in the part of Offaly near to the borders of Laois & Kildare.  His death certificate indicates that he was from Offaly. It also lists his mother's maiden name (Flannagan) and shows her county of origin as Offaly. I recently found a baptism record from RootsIreland.ie that shows a Mary Flanagan in Kilcullen, Co. Kildare. Date of baptism 09-Jul-1797. Father’s name: Richard Flanagan  Mother’s name Alice Kavanagh.  I have no other confirmation that this is indeed Kieran’s mother, but the age would be about right.

 

 Kieran's wife was named Anna (no maiden name given), and burial records show that she originated from County Laois. Since Kieran and his mother were poor & modes of transportation probably limited in that era, it makes sense to me that they would not have traveled very far & that their families may have lived relatively close to each other. If that was the case, and his mother was from Kildare, & his wife was from Laois, it is possible that they could have been from the portion of Offaly that borders Laois & Kildare near Monasterevin.

 

Kieran’s father’s name is not mentioned in any U.S. document I have found. The name Daniel Bernard Burke repeats throughout our family tree, so I suppose that is a good possible first name for Kieran’s father. The other male first names that show up often in our family tree are: Patrick, Joseph, John, William & Dennis.  

 

Since I have not been able to find any birth or marriage records for a Kieran Burke in County Offaly, County Tipperary is another possibility.  I found a marriage record on the web site of the Irish Family History Foundation that showed a marriage between a Kieran Burke & Joanna Pendergast in Ballylooby Parish 22-Feb-1838.  Maybe they moved from Ballylooby to County Offaly before emigrating to the U.S.   I also recently found a record on FamilySearch.org of a Kieran Burke 1815-1902. He could be an uncle of my G-G-Grandfather who stayed in Ireland. This Kieran was from the “registration district” of Clogheen, but I don’t know which “Clogheen” this refers to. There is one Clogheen in Tipperary & two in Kildare.  Obviously, my number one suspect is one of the two Clogheens in County Kildare.  One is west of Monesterevin, where R420 & R445 intersect just north of Kilnure.  The other is west of the Ummeras Beg Quarry on L1002.  But on the other hand, the Clogheen in County Tipperary is just south of Ballylooby.

 

The FamilySearch.org record lists the following citation: Vol. 4, p. 347, General Registry, Custom House, Dublin Ireland: FHL microfilm 101601  - digital folder number 347 – image number 00585.

I assume I would have to visit Dublin to view this record.

 

If anyone knows of any Burkes in Offaly, Kildare, or Tipperary who might be related, I would like to meet them when I come to Ireland this summer.

 

 

 

Thanks, 

Timothy Burke

Louisville, Ky. U.S.A.

 

Friday 3rd May 2013, 12:19AM

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  • Timothy:

    A couple minor points. You don't need to go to Dublin to review the record. Write to the GRO www.groireland.ie Fill out their form, provide the registration district, year, and volume and page number. A copy of a record costs around 4 euros. Also, there is no Clogheen registration district in Co. Kildare. There is a Clogheen registration district in Co. Tipperary.

    You have done a lot of good work. Good luck in your research efforts.

    Roger McDonnell

     

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 3rd May 2013, 01:13AM
  • Thanks for the advice. I will write to the GRO.

    Tim Burke

     

    Friday 3rd May 2013, 02:14AM
  • Roger,

    Attached is a screen shot of a Google Earth map of the region around Monasterevin. I have labeled the 2 "Clogheens" with Yellow push pins and named them Clogheen - Offaly & Clogheen 2.  Is Clogheen 2 in County Laois or County Offaly?

     

     

    Friday 3rd May 2013, 02:29AM
  • Tim:

    I spent a lot of time looking at your map and a map on the OS map web site and I can't answer your question with any conviction so I'd rather not give you bad info. The master townland book from the 1851 census only shows a Clogheen in Kildare.

    Roger

    http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,588882,739883,0,10

    Castlemore Roscommon, IrelandXO Volunteer ☘

    Friday 3rd May 2013, 05:25PM
  • Roger,

    I appreciate all you have done to help me. The map link you gave me will keep me busy for weeks!!! Very Cool.

    I found the Clogheen just southwest of Monasterevin, in Kildare.  Just browsing around, I found another north of Monasterevin, just west of the Ummeras Beg. I also think the one in Tipperary has some real promise. 

    Thanks again for your help. That's very generous of you.

     

    Sincerely,

    Tim Burke

     

     

    Friday 3rd May 2013, 05:56PM
  • Have you tried the passenger lists, as they give quite a bit of detail.  Ellis Island is a free passenger record search

    Patricia Brophy

    Saturday 4th May 2013, 10:19AM
  • Patricia,

    Yes, I have searched passenger lists via Ancestry.com.  Since Kearnen emmigrated to the U.S. circa 1846-1850 he would not be found on the Ellis Island lists. Ellis Island only opened in 1892. 

    No other passenger list that I have found contains a name similar to Kearnen Burke except:

    A. a New York 1850 list for a ship called Nathaniel Kimball, which lists a passenger named "Kiernan Burke" age 24. 

    B. a New Orleans 1849 list for a ship called Riverdale, which lists a passenger "Kenn Burks" age 21.

     

    A Jesuit priest great uncle of mine had done research into our family in the 1980's while he was teaching at Xavier University in Ohio.  He wrote in his research that Kearnen arrived in the U.S. around 1850 in New Orleans and took a river boat directly to North Bend Ohio.  

    My great-uncle's research would tend to support choice B. 

    Neither is a perfect match though. My g-g-grandfather's death certificate lists his age at his death in 1911 as 93. If that  is correct he would have been 32 in 1850 or 31 in 1849.  Of course it is entirely possible that he did not know his actuall age when he emmigrated although one would think he would be closer than a 10 year difference. 

    I recently found an interesting prospect on the Roots Ireland web site. A Kieran Burke who married a Joanna Pendergast 22-Feb-1838 in Ballylooby Parrish, County Tipperary. That location is very close to Clogheen Tipperary, where I found a record for a Kieran Burke who died in Clogheen in 1902.  It would be interesting to know if any to this Kieran's family emmigrated to the U.S. during the famine. This guy could be a relative who stayed in Ireland after my Kearnen left for America.   

    Thanks for your input.

    Sincerely,

    Tim Burke

     

     

     

    Saturday 4th May 2013, 03:11PM

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